May 08 23:40:42 * ruskie wonders how a cast of teleport without error can blow up May 08 23:40:56 * sandalle pokes abouter May 08 23:41:31 <abouter> i've got a question about enthrall May 08 23:41:47 <abouter> is its support good enough for now? May 08 23:41:59 <abouter> or do we really want to support every wm ou there? May 08 23:42:09 <abouter> according to http://83.240.17.229/~babca/users/statistic.php?select=enthrall May 08 23:42:12 <abouter> http://83.240.17.229/~babca/users/statistic.php?select=enthrall May 08 23:42:18 <abouter> there's only 2 users, including me... May 08 23:42:23 <swoolley> heh May 08 23:42:29 <ruskie> what I'm the only other user? May 08 23:42:32 <afrayedknot> no one knows about it May 08 23:42:48 <alley_cat> yeah, make it more public, announce it on the ml May 08 23:42:49 * dmlb2000|server would wait for bugs to be filed on support to be added... May 08 23:42:50 <swoolley> I'll use it, I really want it for my wife's machine so she can get stuff in her menus May 08 23:42:51 <sandalle> I just started using it this week May 08 23:42:59 <sandalle> and told a new user about it who might use it May 08 23:43:00 <abouter> i'll post some more mail on the ML May 08 23:43:06 <alley_cat> i think windowmanager backends can be done on a per-request basis May 08 23:43:08 <sandalle> abouter: probably announce it on the ML May 08 23:43:29 <abouter> ok, as for the few wm's left to do, anyone care to help out? May 08 23:43:30 <sandalle> abouter: I think it has enough WM support for now and if people want more they can file requests (and hopefully help) May 08 23:43:44 <alley_cat> i guess most people don't need it as they're using kde/gnome/xfce May 08 23:43:58 * ruskie uses enthralls xfce4 backend :) May 08 23:44:14 * vlaaad doesn't know enthrall :-/ May 08 23:44:17 * alley_cat wonders what the use of that is, xfce4 already does it natively May 08 23:44:35 <ruskie> yeah but it makes it uneditable May 08 23:44:36 <abouter> fvwm and e17 are the ones which should be added imho May 08 23:44:51 <alley_cat> ruskie: ahh, true May 08 23:45:00 <alley_cat> fvwm is a pain to support in enthrall May 08 23:45:16 <abouter> alley_cat: i know, hence the question May 08 23:45:18 <alley_cat> i might actually take a try at that again some time, but not soon May 08 23:45:19 <sandalle> WM support should probably be brought up on the ML :) May 08 23:45:34 <ruskie> well a simple backend to create a simple fvwm menu with submenus oculd be done May 08 23:45:38 <sandalle> abouter: I say it's fine as is; e17 is still CVS and may change APIs May 08 23:45:45 <ruskie> so that users can use it further on in their fvwm config May 08 23:46:26 <abouter> the other thing is the desktop files, there's still a lot of spells which don't install one May 08 23:46:28 <afrayedknot> are we done? May 08 23:46:42 <sandalle> afrayedknot: one more (short) item after this (just needs a yes/no) May 08 23:46:48 <swoolley> no May 08 23:46:51 <ruskie> lol May 08 23:46:54 <swoolley> ok, now are we done? May 08 23:46:54 <abouter> lol May 08 23:46:59 <afrayedknot> yes May 08 23:47:00 <sandalle> abouter: file bugs for them so we know May 08 23:47:12 <sandalle> Any comments/questions for abouter? May 08 23:47:22 <abouter> sandalle: when i find one, i fix it, but i haven't got the entire grimoire installed ;) May 08 23:47:34 <sandalle> abouter: true. :) May 08 23:47:56 <sandalle> thanks for bringing up enthrall, abouter. :) May 08 23:48:13 <abouter> thanks for allowing me to shamelessly plug enthrall ;) May 08 23:48:40 <sandalle> One last item: SM-Commit mailing list with Perforce commit e-mails (with the Subject modified to tell you what group it's from (Sorcery, Grimoire, etc.)): Yes/No? May 08 23:48:44 <sandalle> abouter: np. :) May 08 23:49:09 <dmlb2000|server> yes May 08 23:49:10 <afrayedknot> yes May 08 23:49:17 <swoolley> yes May 08 23:49:20 <!BearPerson> is an idea May 08 23:49:22 <PhoboX> yes May 08 23:49:24 <alley_cat> yes May 08 23:49:26 <ruskie> I'd add group - whate_in_group and a yes from me May 08 23:49:33 <swoolley> vote early and often May 08 23:49:34 <swoolley> yes May 08 23:49:38 <!BearPerson> :) May 08 23:49:38 <abouter> yes May 08 23:49:41 <afrayedknot> are we done? May 08 23:49:44 <sandalle> k May 08 23:49:51 <sandalle> Any other questions/comments? May 08 23:49:54 <alley_cat> i don't need it, but there probably are users interested in it May 08 23:50:05 <sandalle> alley_cat: that's the thought, yes (ruskie reminded me :)) May 08 23:50:18 <!BearPerson> so people could subscribe to the list or opt in for perforce commits May 08 23:50:25 <alley_cat> as long as the actual discussions about submits happens the usual group reply way we use now May 08 23:50:29 <!BearPerson> yeah May 08 23:50:37 <!BearPerson> that would be a problem May 08 23:50:39 <sandalle> alley_cat: it'll be read-only except from the Perforce committer May 08 23:50:40 <alley_cat> as i don't intend to subscribe to a list that gets me hundreds of duplicates May 08 23:50:48 <alley_cat> good May 08 23:51:07 <sandalle> well then, I'd like to thank everyone for showing up and that concludes our meeting. :) May 08 23:51:11 * ruskie wonders about that... May 08 23:51:14 <sandalle> ---END LOG---
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